![]() nearly there." And until the client is pleasant to use and you don't feel like you're having to fight with something clunky, it's going to struggle to get that - likely somewhat of a chicken-and-egg situation. Been keeping an eye on the project for a while, and every time I've tried it I've sighed and thought "Almost. ![]() I reckon, realistically, it needs maybe 12 months work minimum before it's polished enough for mass adoption (or a whole bunch of UX/UI developers stepping in and helping out). (Jitsi by itself works fine, it's just the Element-hosted version.) (We still haven't got around to setting up bridges at work.) The video chat support has been bolted on via Jitsi, and doesn't quite work correctly around 50% of the time for people. Can't complain too much with it being free and open source, and I'd love to have the time and energy to do a better client, but the overall feeling with having used it for the last several months is "it's okay as a basic setup, and I like the idea of the various bridges, but the client just isn't quite there". (To be fair, Pidgin hasn't changed much visually from the GTK2 look, and I'm beginning to prefer the old-school look to the new-school everything-is-flat look.)Įlement feels like it's almost there, but not quite, and suffers like many modern "apps" of being a webapp in an Electron wrapper, on the desktop at least. I completely get that it's hard to write a messaging client, particularly having to deal with lowest-common-denominator features at times, is hard, but it reminds me of the Trillian vs Gaim / Pidgin days - Trillian was a much more polished client, and while Pidgin had more network support technically, a lot of the chat windows ended up looking fairly awful. Stupid stuff like the private messages with my boss having a line at the bottom of that chat window claiming there's an unread message from back in May (which there isn't, it just looks ridiculous), and generally feels like a bit of an amateur interface. The server seems to run alright, but the Element (formerly Riot) client definitely has a rough-around-the-edges feeling. I love you guys.We've been trying Matrix/Element at work for the last few months If the Pidgin development team stumbles across this thread: Just wanted to say you folks are one of the handful of development teams doing it right. I'm transferring money into my (rarely every used) PayPal account and looking for a "Donate" button for these guys. It's awesome, and it doesn't have the usual three kitchen sinks I've come to expect from EVERYTHING nowadays. I want to thank each and every one of you for recommending Pidgin. Not a single hiccup, not a single crash, not a single Act Of Evil Or Stupidity has occurred. After MINIMAL configuration (and I seriously cannot stress this part enough!) it has worked perfectly since then. ![]() UPDATED 29JUN14: After everyone here recommended Pidgin I went ahead and installed it over the next weekend. Now it's not only unusable, it's completely unstable. It connected to all of the services, and it did what it was supposed to. Is a simple stand-alone IM client application too much to ask for? Trillian USED TO BE fantastic about ten years ago. What happened to the programmers that knew how to do just the one thing you wanted, and do that one thing well? I'm tired of ten-kitchen-sink applications that are so crammed full of useless crap that they can't even manage to do the basic things that you installed it for in the first place. I don't want it to make internet phone calls, or check my email, or post crap to a social network, or do file transfers in the background, or play movies or MP3 files, or run any banner / scroller crap inside my IM window with the latest news headlines or the postings to their corporate blog. Does anyone have any recommendations for a GOOD instant messaging client that can connect to all of the (remaining) IM services and doesn't try to shoehorn ten kitchen sinks into your tooltray?Īll I want is something that does IM. ![]() So Trillian just gacked again, and it's pretty much the final straw. ![]()
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